It seems banal. I wouldn’t even write))
But I encountered some minor difficulties. 1) Type of lamps.
I read the Internet, there are few posts on this topic, I found one - type h11.
I came to the store, just in case, I asked exactly how “a light bulb for PTF grants.” People ask me “what base?” Gru - “like H11.” The seller is not a fact! And he says that in addition to H11 there is another one. And the bulbs are non-returnable, so I had to figure out exactly which one. As a result, I found out that I have an H11 from a photograph from my blog post
, where the fog lights are visible on the removed bumper.
2) Price
. Here I must say that the cheapest H11 lamp in that store was hella for 410 rubles for 1 piece! Not cheap! Unpleasantly surprised. There are lamps for 700-800! (regular ones, it seems). I googled it and decided to take Hella. Should be normal. China did not decide, as there may be problems with poor light, excess current (melting wiring, connectors, or even worse). I bought it in general.
3) Replacing the lamp
. Again, there is not enough information, there is a video on YouTube where they chat about this topic... I came across a recording here on the drive, how someone on a grant changed the lamp in the PTF, so he even cut out a “hatch” in the standard fender liner! This method is not acceptable to me. I also didn’t want to remove the factory fender liner - I still have “fangs” (bumper body kits), which are secured with 2 screws from the factory fender liner... As a result, at the dacha, the idea came to me - to bend the bumper out of engagement with the fender, having first unscrewed 2 screws, connecting the bumper to the fender liner. Everything should be clear in the photo. In the end it took about 5 minutes to get the job done. Everything went smoothly. PTF works. I'm happy )
By the way, from the Lada Granta owner's manual
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“To free access to the fog lamp from under the front wheel arch, you must first REMOVE the wheel and partially release the fastening of the front fender flap by REMOVING 6 SCREWS.
Bend the shield, remove the inoperative lamp...” In the standard Norm, Standard, Lux, Liftback configuration, fog lights (hereinafter referred to as PTF) are not installed in the front bumper. Instead of accessories, plastic plugs are built in. Let's look at how to install fog lights on a Granta liftback step by step below.
Preparatory stage (selection of PTF for Lada Granta)
The range of PTFs is not large; it is represented by several domestically produced models. Some owners claim that PTFs from Opel and Ford are compatible, but the information has not been verified.
Name / manufacturer / article | Price, rub.) |
LADA Granta (VAZ 2190) / Kalina 2 / LADA Largus |
OSRAM kit 21900-3743010
*prices are as of September 22, 2018.
Video: installation of fog lights and repair of head optics on the Lada Granta
The Lada Granta in the Lux configuration already has fog lights. But, having purchased the necessary parts, you can equip other configuration models – “Standard” or “Norma” – with additional headlights. This work is painstaking, but if you do it carefully, it will not be difficult. Every driver knows that the price of work at a service station is directly proportional not to the cost of parts, but to the duration of the work.
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Step-by-step process for preparing and installing fog lights
In the auto store we purchase: PTF, corrugation (at least 3.0 m), adapters - adapters for PTF with standard wiring.
- To remove the front bumper, unscrew three self-tapping screws on each side, four plastic clips, three “10” bolts in the lower perimeter;
- We remove the structure along with the radiator grille;
It is important to know. In the Norma and Standard models, there is no hole for adjusting the fog lights. The owners independently cut out a diameter of “8”. In the Liftback body modification, the opening is factory-made.
- We cut out the opening for the fog lights along the contour, it is factory-made;
- To make it smooth, treat the surface with a household hairdryer;
- We fix the headlights on three standard mounts;
- We connect adapters to each of the lamps, since the standard block with wires is short, its length is not enough;
- We put on the front bumper, screw it in with bolts and plastic clips.
Wiring diagram for fog lights Lada Granta liftback
Engine compartment
- We lay an additional wire from the right PTF headlight to the left one. We solder it and bring it into the engine compartment to connect to the relay.
- We fix the mass to the body at the place where the bumper is attached, maybe under the license plate, in the center.
- Do not forget to lay all electrical wiring in a corrugated material made of fireproof material.
Interior of the Lada Granta liftback car
- We lay the corrugated hose through the hole in the hydraulic corrector seal.
- The connection is best made at the ignition switch. That is, when turned off, the headlights will go out automatically.
- Open the glove box lid, press the side stops, and remove the lid.
- We stretch our hand into the cavity and carefully squeeze out the block of two buttons for controlling the heated glass and PTF.
- We power the minus from the heater button. Plus we won’t take it, since they will be activated at the same time.
- We connect the positive cable and install the unit again.
- We connect to the positive from the ignition switch unit (blue wire), it is located under the steering wheel.
- Finally, we power the relay - regulator: ground - wire from the button - end to the PTF - plus to the ignition.
In each specific configuration, the color scheme of the wire may differ. Read the diagram in the instruction manual for details. Classic colors: red, yellow, blue, brown. If you do not want to supply power through the ignition switch, the connection diagram is simplified with one less procedure.
Connection to the vehicle's on-board electrical network
Fog lights are connected to the vehicle's on-board network according to the classical scheme with a power relay, which is controlled by a low-current circuit of the power button. In this case, you must be guided by the electrical diagram included in the installation kit. Connecting headlights to the on-board electrical network of a LADA Granta car can be done in two ways:
- 1. Using the new external lighting control unit from the LADA Granta in the “Lux” configuration.
- 2. By installing the power button in any convenient place.
However, in any case, it is necessary to remove the battery from the car and extend the electrical wiring through the engine compartment into the car interior. In this case, the wiring must be hidden in the corrugation.
The wires in the engine compartment are routed along the side member, leading the ends of the wires into the cabin and to the installed fog lights. The wiring is fixed with plastic ties. Next, connect the fog lights and proceed to work inside the car. The wiring into the cabin is pulled through a standard hole in the engine panel. It is best to place the relay in an area located behind the exterior lighting control module. In addition, the external lighting control unit must be dismantled, for which:
- remove the cover of the mounting block;
- Unscrew the screw securing it to the dashboard and move the block as far as the wires will allow;
- disconnect the plug and remove the unit.
The wires are connected as follows:
- 1. Power relay (98.3747).
- to pin 87 - “+” wires from the fog lights;
- to pin 85 - control wire from the power button;
- to pin 30 - from the “+” terminal of the battery;
- to pin 86 - connect “-” to the on-board network.
- 2. Button for turning on the fog lights (991.3710).
- to pin 1 - wire from pin 85 of the power relay;
- to pin 2 - “+12 V” wire from the ignition switch;
- to contact “B” - wire “+12 V” from the side lights switching circuit;
- to contact “A” - wire “-” of the on-board network;
- Contacts “D” and “1” are connected to each other by a jumper.
After finishing the work, you need to reinstall the external lighting control unit and connect the battery to the on-board network. After this, it is recommended to verify the correct installation using an Avometer and only then check the functionality of the fog lights installed on the LADA Granta car.
To increase the comfort of movement and safety of a domestic car in poor visibility conditions, many car owners prefer to additionally install fog lights (FTL).
But not all AvtoVAZ models have seats for additional lighting fixtures.
For example, for the Lada Granta, only possible installation locations are molded in the front bumper:
- The holes are not through;
- There are no plugs;
- The wiring is not connected.
The problem can be solved in two ways:
- Or purchase a new bumper with holes already cut out. For example, from companies involved in tuning AvtoVAZ models; (see also article)
- Or you yourself cut out the holes for the fog lights on the Grant - installation, accordingly, will also be done by yourself.
Experienced car owners advise cutting holes in the bumper themselves. The rest of the story will be about how to install fog lights on a Grant yourself.
Step-by-step instructions for installing a rear fog light
Many Lada Granta Liftback car owners are surprised to hear about this, but it is a fact. Of course, we are not talking about PTF in its classic form, but about a laser brake light. It is installed in the rear of the car and informs the driver behind about the vehicle. Since there is no strictly defined installation location, it is customary to fix it in the area of the license plate, under the lower contour of the bumper, in the spoiler. There are known cases of embedding an accessory inside.
A bright red light beam informs drivers behind, preventing accidents. The brake light is also used when it is necessary to notify the driver of the need to switch the high beam headlights. An alternative way to use lighting when backing up or parking in conditions of limited visibility. The maximum effective beam length is 25.0 meters. Exceeding the length does not guarantee the quality of lighting.
The voltage is supplied from the left/right brake light. Activation is possible either by pressing the brake pedal or by a separate button. The owner makes the decision based on personal beliefs. In practice, activation occurs with an autonomous button, since when driving backwards it is not always advisable to use the standard brake pedal. It is strictly forbidden to point the laser beam at the windshield area behind the driving driver.
Reviews
from 2800 | |
Kit 21900-3743011 | —/— |
—/— 2190-3743011 | —/— |
—/— 2190-3743010 | —/— |
PTF wiring kit for LADA Granta (2190 2874498) | from 600 |
PTF "LUCH" set 1118-3743010/11 | from 1800 |
PTF glass (02B08507) Granta / Kalina 2 / Largus, Datsun | from 750 |
AUTOMOTIVE LIGHTING / BOSCH (982469641) | from 2000 |
№ | Positive |
1. | Kirill , 36 years old: after purchasing a Lada Grant from the showroom, I immediately purchased a PTF from OSRAM 21900-3743010. I didn’t install it at the service station because I can do it myself. In general, I am satisfied with the quality of lighting, no complaints. |
2. | Vitaly , 29 years old: it is obvious that there are not enough foglights out of the box. I often drive at night and need a good view of the road. Since I don’t understand manufacturers, I entrusted it to a specialist at a service station. PTF Lada Granta liftback - my advice. |
3. | Georgiy , 37 years old: I’ve been working as a taxi driver for the second year, my shift often ends after one in the morning. The disadvantage of the standard lighting system is obvious. I bought a “LUCH” set 1118-3743010/11 at the market. The cost is 1850 rubles, the quality is good, installation couldn’t be simpler. |
4. | Victor , 25 years old: I work as an entrepreneur, purchasing goods from hundreds of kilometers away. By morning the products should be on the counter. To help the standard headlights, I installed PTF. Second week, no complaints. |
5. | Maxim , 28 years old: I leave my positive review of BOSCH fog lights (982469641). Special thanks to the store manager for his practical advice. |
6. | Konstantin , 37 years old: during scheduled maintenance, he ordered the service of installing a PTF from a technician. I chose OSRAM 21900-3743010 because the price and quality are at a decent level. Numerous positive reviews. |
7. | Vladimir , 48 years old: I was a little upset by the lack of fog lights from the box on the Lada Granta liftback. I had to install it myself last weekend. The lighting is good, no complaints. |
Negative | |
1. | Alexander , 36 years old: not only are fog lights not included in the kit, but they also provide poor lighting. We are talking about a domestic manufacturer. Installed by BOSCH (982469641). I use it myself and recommend it to others. |
2. | Vitaly , 39 years old: installed domestic PTF OSRAM 21900-3743010. I regretted buying it, wasted money. The quality is below average, the angle of inclination is several degrees. I don't recommend it. |
3. | Vyacheslav , 37 years old: not happy with the installed fog lights, they don’t cover the side of the road, visibility is mediocre, the light is dim. |
Conclusion Every product has its own buyer. If you don’t find fault with a budget car, which is the Lada Granta Liftback, the quality of PTF lighting is good, it is enough for visibility. Of course, when compared with headlights from foreign brands in the premium segment, the advantage of the latter is obvious. In order to increase the service life of accessories, purchase products exclusively from certified points of sale. Require the provision of documents, check the functionality on site.
Which fog lights are better for Granta: Kirzhach or Bosch
In more expensive trim levels, the Lada Granta is equipped from the factory with a set of fog lights produced by Avtosvet LLC, Kirzhach. Judging by the reviews of the owners, they work well. There is also a set produced in Tolyatti, which was also equipped with factory cars. Its catalog number is 2190-3743010 and 2190-3743011. The average price of good domestic fog lights is about 40-50 dollars.
What is included in the PTF Grant kit
The PTF kit for Granta includes:
- Fog light relay.
- Connecting wires complete with connectors.
- PTF power button.
- About three meters of corrugation.
- Fog lights.
In some cases, you will have to purchase additional inserts for the front bumper, matching the body color, or unpainted. On sedans, as a rule, there are no inserts and you have to cut the holes for the foglights yourself.
Bosch, Kirzhach, or SE?
There are a lot of opinions on choosing the best fog lights for Granta. As a rule, the public does not have much trust in inexpensive Chinese brands, of which there are also plenty on the market. They are preferred by PTF LLC Avtosvet (Kirzhach) and Ryazan Bosch. There is an opinion that:
- Bosch fog lights are equipped with thicker glass and have valves to remove moisture;
- the distance from the lamp to the glass in Ryazan PTF is greater, so the glass does not heat up as much and does not break;
- PTF Kirzhach often suffer from glass damage, both due to temperature changes and mechanical damage.
Fog lights of the third type, from the SE version, are not recommended to be installed in a standard place in the bumper due to poor build quality and thin glass.
Where can I install PTF
In the design of the modern Granta, the installation locations are precisely worked out: under the license plate, on the sides. Some bumpers even have recesses there . In any case, for proper installation, the front bumper of the car will have to be removed.
But before that, you should go shopping and find the necessary parts. Today's market offers both bumpers with recesses and bumpers with headlights already installed. The choice, as always, remains with the owner.
Most Lada Granta cars do not have fog lights, but there are recesses in the bumper for do-it-yourself installation
Installation of PTF in Granta
First you need to remove the Granta bumper. Now we cut out the holes for the PTF using a utility knife. We fix the installed headlights with self-tapping screws, connect the wires and install the bumper in the reverse order.
Instructions for installing headlights for dummies
The entire process of equipping a car with foglights can be divided into several stages:
- Removing the bumper.
- Installation of headlights.
- Wiring.
- Connecting headlights.
- Reassemble the parts in reverse order.
Removing the front bumper
The Granta's bumper is integral with the radiator grille, so in order not to distort the latches under the wings, it is advisable to remove it together with a partner.
Photo gallery: necessary tools
- crosshead screwdriver;
- 10 mm wrench, 10 mm socket;
- 8 mm wrench;
- TORX T-20 wrench.
Bumper removal algorithm
- Unscrew the front license plate.
To access the mounting bolts, remove the front license plate
With the hood open, find and unscrew the bolts securing the radiator grille
The next step is to unscrew one of the bolts and a pair of screws securing the bumper,
Unscrew a pair of screws on one and the other side of the bumper
Unscrew four screws in the wheel arches - a pair on each side
Video: step-by-step process of removing the front bumper
DIY headlight installation
For the Lada Granta, two types of headlights are offered today:
- Bosch - with flat glass;
- Kirzhach is convex glass.
Both headlights are standard, so their choice is up to the consumer.
What tool do you need?
In addition to headlights, to equip a car with PTF you must have:
- self-tapping screws (6 pieces for attaching headlights);
- drill;
- set of drills;
- countersink or sandpaper;
- stationery knife;
- sealant.
Experts recommend installing headlights in accordance with the following plan:
- A hole with a diameter of up to 10 mm is drilled in the center of the oval for the headlight.
Make a 10mm hole in the center of the notch to start cutting
Starting from the center of the hole, carefully cut out a circle of the required size.
It is better to cut the hole in several steps so that your hand does not slip and damage the bumper.
After cutting the hole for the headlight, sand it down so that it does not extend beyond the outer diameter
Secure the headlight using self-tapping screws
After installing the headlight, coat all joints with sealant.
The last paragraph of the instructions is optional. However, experts recommend not to neglect it, otherwise dirt, snow or water may get into the cracks.
The steps described above are repeated in the same sequence to install the second headlight.
How to wire and connect a headlight
To connect the PTF you will need various tools:
- installation kit for connecting fog lights on Grant. It includes a button, a relay, wiring in the cabin, wiring under the hood;
- corrugation (for example, 9 mm for the interior and 16 mm for the hood);
- insulating tape;
- drill;
- set of drills;
- 10 mm head;
- 13 mm wrench.
An installation kit for connecting fog lights on a Grant will make the car owner’s work much easier
Possible problems and malfunctions
The low beam of the Lada Granta does not illuminate the right side of the road well enough, so additional optics will be an excellent assistant and will provide a bright luminous flux.
During the installation process you may encounter the following problems:
- crease in the corners of the wings when removing the bumper,
- damage to electrical wiring terminals,
- incorrect connection or short circuit of the wire.
The bumper on the Grant is made in the form of one large part, so during dismantling problems may arise in the form of damage to the front fenders, so you need to remove the bumper together with an assistant on both sides at the same time.
If nothing lights up when you test turn on the optics, the plugs are most likely damaged due to incorrect connection. To fix the problem, change the connector. If the lights come on for a second and then go off, this may indicate a faulty relay.
Fog lights device
The standard fog lights are equipped with a plastic mount that holds the optics in the Granta's bumper. The reflector design allows you to effectively illuminate the road surface due to its low location in the bumper and a wide horizontal beam.