5 engines for Lada: which one do I need? Expert answer

Engine

Lada Priora has undergone changes several times, both externally and technically. The appearance, power plant and transmission changed.

Below is an example of engines that were installed on the VAZ 2170-72.

Engine 21116 (8 valves)

This engine was installed on the VAZ 2114 and Lada Kalina, and was later inherited by the Priora. The power of this internal combustion engine is 80 hp. with a volume of 1.6 liters, which is very small. Such an engine does not have good dynamics, and it is difficult for it to “drag” the body of the Priora.

Pros:

  • Does not bend valves;
  • Easy to maintain;
  • Cheaper spare parts;

Minuses:

  • Low power;
  • Noisiness;

The installation of such an engine continued until 2021.

Engine 21126 (16 valves)

16 valve engine with more power and torque compared to 116. It is a modified model of the 124 engine. Its power is 98 hp. with a volume of 1.6 liters.

Pros:

  • Great power;
  • No noisy operation;

Minuses:

  • Bend valves when the belt breaks;
  • Expensive spare parts;

Engine 21127 (16 valves)

The modified 126 engine received the index 21127; the intake in this engine was changed, thereby increasing the power to 106 hp. with the same volume of 1.6 liters. They began to install a new cable gearbox for this engine.

Pros:

  • High power;
  • No noisy operation;

Minuses:

  • Bend valves;
  • Expensive spare parts;

Engine 21128 (16 valves)

This engine was specially designed for more powerful Lada cars with the “Super Auto” nameplate. The power of this engine has increased, as has its volume. The number of horsepower in the super car engine increased to 123, and the volume to 1.8 liters, which radically affected the dynamics of the car.

Pros:

  • Good dynamics and high power;

Minuses:

  • Bend valves;
  • More expensive spare parts;

EXCLUSIVE: we take apart the new 123-horsepower engine from AvtoVAZ piece by piece

Where and how to collect

To be precise, the Priora with a powerful engine is assembled not on the AvtoVAZ assembly line, but by a third-party organization. Togliatti has been producing special versions of Lada cars for decades. The current model range includes four special variants of the Lada 4x4 SUV (pickup, ambulance, emergency services and police), an extended version of the Priora Lada Premier and three standard body variants - sedan, hatchback and Priora station wagon - all with a new 123 hp engine.

"Super-Auto" is a small-scale production. The enterprise's capacity is enough to produce 500 Lada Priora 1.8 cars monthly. The scheme is as follows: a commercial vehicle arrives from AvtoVAZ, the engine is removed from it, which is rebuilt with the installation of original parts (connecting rod-piston group and crankshaft). Then the engine is reinstalled into the car, which undergoes running-in, acceptance and is sent to the Lada dealer. Despite the “small” series, the company operates in strict connection with AvtoVAZ - “Super-Auto” regularly visits the top management of the plant, and now all the quality standards introduced by Renault-Nissan at the Volzhsky Automobile Plant apply here.

Accessories

The Super-Auto production program already included a 1.8-liter engine for the Priora, but the current version is truly new. If previously, to increase the displacement, it was necessary to bore the block, increasing the cylinder diameter from 82 to 82.5 mm, now a larger working volume is obtained only by increasing the piston stroke, that is, solely through the use of a different connecting rod and piston group (CPG). The pistons are supplied by the North American company Federal-Mogul, and the connecting rods and crankshafts are Italian, but the supplier is not named.

After installing new components, the engine, which has the factory designation 21128, turns from the usual VAZ “short-stroke” into a “long-stroke” one, which makes it possible to obtain high torque at low speeds. To remove the increased load from the engine caused by increased inertial forces (after all, the piston stroke has become longer), the ShPG parts are made lighter - look, for example, what the pistons look like for a “charged” Priora! By the way, the quality of new components in Super-Auto is especially highlighted - they say that it was this quality that played a key role in the high reliability of this engine.

Power and torque

As you know, the engine for Lada Priora in the “Super-Auto” version is capable of producing 123 hp. maximum power and 165 Nm of torque. For comparison: for the standard Priora, these figures are equal to 98 hp, respectively. and 145 Nm. Increased power and especially torque on a VAZ engine is great, but much more interesting is the torque plate itself.

This is a fact: this engine already has 145 Nm of torque available at 2,200 rpm, that is, exactly the value that is the maximum in a regular Priora! As the speed increases to 3,500 - 4,000 rpm, the engine reaches maximum torque values ​​of 165-166 Nm and maintains values ​​close to these, almost until the cutoff. Accordingly, the driver has a sufficient supply of “traction” in a very wide (especially in comparison with the VAZ “stock”) speed range.

Dynamics and consumption

Priora 1.8 engines comply with Euro-4 environmental standards, the recommended fuel type is AI-95. If you believe the figures indicated on the AvtoVAZ and Super-Avto websites, then the fuel consumption in the combined cycle for standard and “charged” cars is 6.9 and 7.2 l/100 km, respectively. But the creators of the 1.8-liter engine say that the practical consumption indicators of their brainchild are on par with the stock one and can even exceed them if the driver were skilled - because now, in order to drive at a comfortable and dynamic pace, you don’t need to “twist” engine.

Engine test tables and graphs


Comparison of Priora engines 1.8 and 1.6 liters
As you can see from the table, the power of the 1.8 liter engine has a positive effect on its dynamics and even consumption. It would seem that it is fuel consumption that should increase, but test results prove the opposite.


Engine power

In this graph, the favorite is immediately visible; there are practically no equal to the 1.8-liter engine.

What engine can be installed on the Priora?

Category: Car device

Vehicle characteristics: The dimensions of the car are as follows: length - 3021, width - 1100, height - 1911 mm. The wheelbase is 2706 mm. Ground clearance 126 mm. The car is equipped with a hybrid power unit. The 2-cylinder engine is equipped with a system that provides engine power output. There are 4 valves per cylinder. The diameter of one cylinder is 78 mm, the piston stroke is 75 mm. The engine crankshaft accelerates to 5000 rpm. Maximum torque is maintained up to 4000 rpm.

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Watch the VIDEO about which engine can be installed in a Priora from a foreign car.

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Release date: 03/08/2021

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Engine tuning Priora 21126 1.6 16V

Chip tuning of the Priora engine

For fun, you can play with the sports firmware, but there will be no obvious improvement; see how to properly increase the power below.

Priora engine tuning for the city

There are legends that the Priora’s engine produces 105, 110 and even 120 hp, and the power was underestimated to reduce taxes, various measurements were even taken in which the car produced similar power... what everyone decides to believe, let’s focus on the indicators declared by the manufacturer. So, how to increase the power of a Priora engine, how to charge it without resorting to anything special, for a small increase you need to let the engine breathe freely. We install a receiver, a 4-2-1 exhaust, a 54-56 mm throttle body, and we get about 120 hp, which is quite good for the city. Boosting the Priora engine will not be complete without sports camshafts, for example, STI-3 camshafts with the configuration described above will provide about 140 hp. and it will be fast, an excellent city motor. The refinement of the Priora engine goes further, sawn cylinder head, Stolnikov 9.15 316 shafts, light valves, 440cc injectors and your car easily produces more than 150-160 hp.

Compressor for Priora

Boring the Priora engine or how to increase the volume

Let's start with how you don't need to increase the volume, an example would be the famous VAZ 21128 engine, don't do that)). One of the easiest options to increase volume is to install a motorcycle kit, for example STI, we choose it for our 197.1 mm block, but do not forget about the jambs of the 128 engine, do not rush to install a long-stroke elbow. You can go the other way and purchase a high block 199.5 mm Priora, 80 mm crankshaft, bore the cylinders to 84 mm and a connecting rod 135.1 mm pin 19 mm, this will give a total of 1.8 volume and without damage to R/S, the engine can be twist freely, install evil shafts and squeeze out more power than a regular 1.6l. To spin your engine even more, you can build up a standard block with a plate, how to do this, how it spins on a 4-throttle intake and wide shafts, and most importantly, how it runs is shown in the video below, watch:

Priora on throttles

Priora turbo engine

There are many methods for building a turbo Prior, let's look at the urban version as it is more suitable for use. Such options are most often built on a TD04L turbine, Niva pistons with grooves, ideally Stolnikov 8.9 shafts, USA 9.12 or similar, 440cc injectors, 128 receiver, 56 damper, exhaust on a 63 mm pipe. All this junk will give more than 250 hp, and how it will go, watch the video

What about the serious Valilov? To build such engines, we leave the bottom the same on a reinforced block, sawn head, Nuzhdin 9.6 shafts or similar, rigid studs from the 8th valve, pump more than 300 l/h, injectors plus or minus 800cc, install the turbine TD05, direct-flow exhaust on the 63rd pipe. This set of iron will be able to pump 400-420 hp into your Prior motor; for a light car weighing a little more than a ton, this is enough to fly into space)

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what engine is suitable for VAZ 2112 from a foreign car engineer? (without flooding)

I would like to know which engine is suitable for the VAZ 2112 from a foreign car engineer. without major changes in fastenings. If you don't know better don't write. thanks in advance.

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Opel's C20XE, it was placed serially on vases, so you can stupidly buy all the mass-produced tripe and put it without any hassle at all.

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Opel's C20XE, it was placed serially on vases, so you can stupidly buy all the mass-produced tripe and put it without any hassle at all.

only 21106 subframe is difficult to find) But it’s easier than fixing a K20 from Honda, although there are such projects.

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Can I ask a question? : For what purpose?

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Opel's C20XE, it was placed serially on vases, so you can stupidly buy all the mass-produced tripe and put it without any hassle at all.

Can I ask a question? : For what purpose?

only 21106 subframe is difficult to find) But it’s easier than fixing a K20 from Honda, although there are such projects.

It’s not particularly problematic, for example, in our team we have a car with such a subframe. not difficult to find.

what kind of cup holders? and why doesn’t it rip out on the thousands of turbo-cans that are now driving around Russia?

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Twice flame hero

Not only c20xe also this c20sel but the first one is cooler of course and the spider is factory

Four times flame hero

It’s not particularly problematic, for example, in our team we have a car with such a subframe. not difficult to find.

what kind of cup holders? and why doesn’t it rip out on the thousands of turbo-cans that are now driving around Russia?

Can I ask a question? : For what purpose?

This is nonsense, I know and can personally show you the heels of turbo cans from 200 to 400 horsepower; no one in this place has any problems. There is a problem with the rigidity of the suspension mounts; they are solved with a subframe for 3 kopecks; the problem with the rigidity of the engine shield is solved by a booster.

Not only c20xe also this c20sel but the first one is cooler of course and the spider is factory

They also put it in the 20s, an excellent option for sports, but you still need to invest a lot of money in the suspension, brakes, etc.

And by the way, I skated about 100 tkm on a 150 horsepower basin (like the power of the C20, i.e.) and everything was ok with the body too

I would like to know which engine is suitable for the VAZ 2112 from a foreign car engineer. without major changes in fastenings. If you don't know better don't write. thanks in advance.

By the way, what is the final goal? Otherwise, there’s one that’s on sale here; it might be easier to buy something ready-made.

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what kind of car is it and how much does it cost?

It’s very difficult to tune the pelvis to this level; here’s a pelvis that rides about the same time on the ring as this starlet

and there is still a lot not described in the list

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