The situation when reverse gear does not engage on a VAZ 2109 is one of the most common problems with this car model. In addition, the VAZ 2108/09/099 “Samara” and VAZ 2113/14/15 “Samara-2” cars were equipped with the same type of gearbox (gearbox), so this transmission malfunction is typical not only for “Nines”.
Often, an attempt to engage a gear is accompanied by a strong crunch of gears, and if the gear is able to be engaged, the gearbox makes noise when moving in reverse. Other owners are faced with a situation where the gear shift lever moves forward all the way, but reverse gear does not work. At the same time, there are no complaints about shifting forward gears.
Repair or replacement
If, during checking the condition of the box, serious damage to its elements was revealed, then serious repairs cannot be avoided.
It should be immediately noted that independent dismantling, repair and reassembly of a gearbox requires not only very good equipment (nominally a pit or overpass, a lifting device, as well as a large set of tools are required), but also very serious knowledge.
That is why, if the gears of a VAZ 2114 do not engage, such repairs should be entrusted to specialists from car service centers.
It should be remembered that independent repair or replacement of the gearbox automatically leads to the loss of all warranty obligations from the manufacturer. For this reason, repairs to a car that is under warranty should be entrusted to branded repair shops.
If we talk about the choice between repair and complete replacement of the unit, then in most cases you should choose the first option. This is due to two reasons. Firstly, the cost of a completely new box exceeds 15 thousand rubles. (moreover, this amount is indicated without taking into account the cost of its installation). In any case, repairs will be much cheaper. And secondly, complete wear of the box (to a state unsuitable for repair) is extremely rare.
The cost of the repair work itself varies from service to service and depends on:
- the size of the locality (and, as a consequence, the presence of competitors);
- type of breakdown;
- the size of the car service (and whether it is official);
- additional clauses in the terms of the contract.
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Replacement box - new or old?
If the reason why the gears on the VAZ 2114 are poorly engaged is due to very severe wear of the gearbox components, and it turns out that its repair will be more expensive than a complete replacement, then the motorist is faced with a choice - install a new gearbox or give preference to a “restored” one.
The first option is certainly preferable, but the fact is that a new gearbox is not cheap at all (as mentioned above).
The cost of a refurbished one is much less (sometimes such a box costs 70% less than a new one).
A rebuilt gearbox is an excellent option, which is almost in no way inferior in quality to a new gearbox, but at the same time costs much less. The only thing to remember is that such units should only be purchased from trusted companies that professionally restore them and provide a guarantee for their products.
It should also be remembered that if there is a choice, it is better to give preference to the “middle option”. You should absolutely not purchase refurbished boxes from little-known companies at a very low price.
Types of checkpoints
Today, all cars are equipped with one of three types of gearboxes.
- Mechanical. Speed shifting is done manually using a special lever.
- Automatic. No external influence is required to change gears. Switching is carried out depending on the degree of pressure on the brake and gas pedals. In this case, reverse gear is engaged manually.
- CVTs. This is a mixed type of gearbox, where the bulk of the work is performed automatically, but if necessary, the gearbox is switched to manual mode.
Advice for motorists
Above we have already talked about why the reverse gear on the VAZ 2114 does not engage and how to correct this situation. But it should also be noted that proper and timely care of the gearbox will help either completely avoid such a situation or postpone it for as long as possible.
There are only two basic rules for this care:
- Change gears, as well as accelerate and brake the vehicle as smoothly as possible, without jerking.
- Periodically check the oil level, replenish it as it is used, and also replace the entire volume if it is worn out.
These simple rules will help to significantly increase the service life of the entire box and its individual parts.
The reverse gear of the VAZ 2114 stopped engaging - video
Not so long ago, reverse gear began to engage with a crunch, and then disappeared completely! In the video I explained everything briefly and clearly! The same goes for owners of 08/09/10/11/12/13/14/15 models Lada, Kalina, Priora, Grant here too) The reasons were told on the YouTube channel:
Troubleshooting
Many transmission malfunctions that cause the reverse gear to disappear or fall out can be eliminated without removing the unit from the car.
If the cause is a loosening of the bolt securing the clamp on the rod, then to correct the defect it is necessary:
- Place the car on a lift.
- Completely loosen the clamp nut.
- Place the gearshift lever in the fully engaged reverse gear position.
- Fully engage reverse gear at the gearbox using the shift rod on the crankcase.
- Tighten the clamp mounting bolt.
Backstage adjustment
If tightening the clamp does not help get rid of the problem, then you need to check the condition of the shift drive parts. One of the reasons why the reverse gear does not engage may be a poorly adjusted rocker.
To make adjustments to the mechanism, you may need the following tools:
- two wrenches with a size of 13 mm, preferably a socket design;
- any wrench or 10 mm socket;
- small hammer;
- slotted screwdriver.
Since the cause of malfunction of the link can be wear of parts, spare parts may be needed:
- universal joint of the rocker;
- Sometimes the shift rod seal may need to be replaced.
Two people are required to adjust the rocker or replace parts of its drive. One person must change gears from the passenger compartment, and the second must adjust the travel of the shift rods.
The order of work is as follows:
- Provide access to the bottom of the car by placing it on a pit or a lift.
- Using a 13 mm wrench, loosen the clamp installed on the gear shift rod.
- Remove the rod from the box rod.
- Using a screwdriver, carefully remove the boot.
- Using a 10 mm wrench, unscrew the fixing bolt on the cardan shaft.
- Knock off the cardan shaft with light blows of a hammer. It is important not to damage the shaft.
- Remove the universal joint seal boot.
- If there is an oil leak, the sealing gland on the box rod must be replaced.
- Install a new boot (or leave the old one if it is intact) and install the universal joint on the shaft.
- Align the hole on the cardan with the notch on the shaft.
- Tighten the 10 mm clamp and install the boot completely in place.
- Install the rod on the cardan rod and adjust the gearshift lever travel.
- The second person should sit in the driver's seat, set the gear shift lever to neutral, move it slightly to the right and hold it in that position.
- After this, you need to tighten the 13 mm clamp nut.
Typically, after such a repair, the reverse gear starts to engage without problems. In addition, the operation of the entire gear selection mechanism on the VAZ-2109 becomes clearer.
Replacing the backstage
Changing the gearbox oil
If the oil seal on the rod is damaged, oil leaks out of the gearbox housing, and dirt can get into the box itself. These factors may be the reason why reverse gear stops engaging. In addition, the oil in the box loses its properties during operation, so it must be replaced preventively at least once every 35–40 thousand kilometers. Before replacing, you need to check the condition of the oil in the box. To do this, you need to remove the oil dipstick installed in the gearbox housing and visually assess the quality of the oil. The presence of metal and dirt particles in the oil on the dipstick is unacceptable. The oil itself should be quite liquid and not stick to your hands in a thick layer.
Dipstick with oil level marks
To replace, you will need the following materials and tools:
- New oil. When purchasing oil, you need to consider the type of gearbox. For fairly rare four-speed gearboxes, three liters of oil are required, for newer five-speed ones - 3.3 liters. The oil itself must have a tolerance of 80W-85, the manufacturer does not matter.
- A container for draining old oil with a volume of at least 4 liters.
- A funnel with a hose for pouring new oil or a syringe.
- Wrenches 12 and 17 mm of any type.
- Rags and cleaning solvent.
The actual work order is as follows:
- Place the car with the heated gearbox on the pit.
- Remove the rubber plug from the gearbox ventilation valve installed on the top of the crankcase.
- Clean the valve and plug from dust and dirt. It is convenient to clean parts with thin wire and a rag.
- Reinstall clean parts.
- Wipe off dirt from the bottom of the box. Unscrew the plug on the bottom of the box housing.
- Place a container under the drain hole and drain the oil. It will completely merge in at least 20-25 minutes.
- After this, screw the drain plug back into place and carefully tighten it with a wrench. First, the plug and hole must be thoroughly wiped with a rag.
- Pour fresh oil through the oil level dipstick hole in the box.
- During filling, it is necessary to check the oil level, which normally should be between o and “MAX” on the dipstick rod.
- If there is an overflow, the oil can be pumped out with a large medical syringe with a tube on the spout.
- Within a few days after the change, it is advisable to check the level and appearance of the oil. You also need to make sure that there are no leaks through the plug and box seals.
Rubber cap for crankcase ventilation
Drain hole on the crankcase
Dipstick at the top of the crankcase
A funnel for filling oil installed in the dipstick hole
On early versions of front-wheel drive VAZ gearboxes there is no hole for the dipstick. To fill the oil in the crankcase of such boxes there is a control hole closed with a threaded plug. Filling is carried out using an oil syringe. The oil level is considered normal when it reaches the lower edge of the inspection hole.
The arrow indicates the inspection hole on the side of the box housing
Replacing the gear selection mechanism
One of the common reasons why the reverse gear of a VAZ 2109 does not engage is the breakdown of spring 2 installed in a separate mechanism.
Gear selection mechanism
To access it, it is necessary to remove and repair the mechanism itself, located inside the box.
A short list of necessary actions:
- Disconnect the car.
- Remove the air filter completely.
- Remove the left wheel and loosen the CV joint hub nut.
- Drain the oil from the gearbox crankcase.
- Remove the two bolts securing the left ball joint to the steering knuckle.
- Unlock and remove the steering tip.
- Remove the fist from the CV joint splines.
- Completely remove the left drive.
- Remove the starter and negative wire from the gearbox housing.
- Remove the gear shift rods from the gearbox and clutch.
- Unscrew the speedometer drive cable.
- Place a support under the box housing and remove the box support fastening
- Remove the gearbox from the vehicle and disassemble it.
When disassembling the gearbox, it is necessary to check the condition of the gear locks, since wear is the main reason why the reverse gear spontaneously jumps out of gear. You can get to the lock without removing and disassembling the box; it is located on the side of the crankcase and is closed with a screw plug. Disassembling the gearbox and inspecting the gear selection mechanism will also help solve the problem in which the reverse gear on the VAZ-2109 does not turn off.
Why reverse gear does not engage - common reasons
In this article we will look at the main reasons:
Speed switch
- The first thing you need to pay attention to is the rocker itself and the cardan - it often happens that the rocker slips, the splines are ground off or the clamp is loose. In this case, you will need an overpass or a pit.
- Reverse gear locking mechanism. To check this mechanism, you need to remove the gearshift knob (the dashboard between the seats) and look. Everything will become clear.
- If you checked the first two points and found no problems, then you will have to remove the gearbox.
- The fixing bolt was cut off.
- Fastening the gear selection mechanism.
- A spring (the most common one sometimes bursts).
Alternatively, the reason may be in the release bearing, but then all gears would be engaged barely and with a crunch. You can also try adjusting the clutch pedal.
Release bearing
The clutch fork is connected to the release bearing; it is this bearing (under the influence of the fork and your foot) that presses the clutch petals and disconnects the disc from the flywheel and basket. If the bearing is “covered”, then this process becomes very difficult. To be fair, it is worth noting that the gears will still be switched on, but it will be very difficult! With crunching, whistling and other jokes. It's worth changing it. However, again you will need to remove the transmission
Extending the service life of gearboxes
You will be able to use your car for many years without going to car repair shops if you can follow basic recommendations. They will extend the service life of the gearbox, minimize possible problems, breakdowns and the need for repair work.
There are only two recommendations.
- Always try to monitor the oil level in the gearbox. If it drops, be sure to top it up immediately, do not delay the procedure until later. When the oil becomes unusable, change it completely, rather than fill in the missing amount.
- Avoid aggressive use, do not jerk the gears sharply, accelerate smoothly, and brake similarly. A simple caring attitude towards the gearbox will allow you to avoid wear and tear and numerous breakdowns.
As you can see, solving problems with checkpoints is not so easy. Therefore, the best option is to prevent their occurrence.
Wear of release bearing, springs, forks, gears, synchronizers, shafts
As a rule, all these breakdowns are accompanied by extraneous noise during operation, which is difficult to ignore. Repairs will require dismantling the gearbox and the participation of specialists. Your task is not to delay your visit to the service station. This will save you money and possibly prevent irreversible damage.
We deliberately did not touch upon the problems with engaging reverse gear in an automatic transmission, for the simple reason that automatic transmissions are foolproof from birth - it is very difficult to break them yourself. But the most important thing is that the automatic transmission signals the driver about its problems with characteristic jolts when operating in normal mode. It is impossible not to notice them.
How to prevent gearbox failure
Early signs of future failure include:
- Difficulties appearing when changing gears. It becomes more and more difficult to change gears. Sometimes you have to squeeze the clutch and move the lever to neutral.
- The transmissions are flying out.
- Oil is leaking from the gearbox.
Bearing wear
Another common cause of problems during gear shifting is due to improper adjustment of the shift actuator. Assembly parts often break and can also cause the problem. To eliminate problems, it is necessary to correct or replace the rod as soon as possible, as well as tighten the screws. Then you can start adjusting the drive and replacing the remaining non-functioning parts.
On some VAZ 2114 vehicles, a gear reset occurs. This process occurs spontaneously. The reason is wear or breakage of the teeth (end teeth) on the coupling. Sometimes the teeth on the gears fail. A similar problem arises due to insufficiently competent debugging of the drive. In other cases, the reason lies in inaccuracy during the installation of the traction cover, which is intended for protection.
To correct this problem, you may need to replace all faulty parts. Next you should start debugging the drive.
The next step is to install the cover in the required position. If an oil leak occurs, then it is necessary to install the crankcase and change any gaskets that look worn out. Do not forget about the need to remove the box before repairing.
Clutch faults
Simply put, the clutch is a mechanism that serves to transmit the torque of the internal combustion engine to the transmission, and also opens the engine and transmission so that gear can be changed. Failure of individual components of this unit may make it impossible to shift gears while the engine is running.
Brake fluid leaks
The design of many modern cars assumes that the working fluid for the clutch is brake fluid. If there is not enough fluid in the clutch drive hydraulic system, then the clutch will not engage fully.
In this case, the gears will engage slowly or not engage at all. For an initial check, you should look at the fluid level in the reservoir. If the level is low, it is necessary to check for leaks, eliminate defects and bleed the clutch.
Release bearing
Gears may not engage or may not engage fully if the fault is related to the clutch basket. The release bearing may also be the cause. If the specified bearing does not move freely along the input shaft or is jammed, then replacement of the part is necessary.
It is necessary to separately add that the primary sign of problems with the release valve is the appearance of a rustling or distinct hum when the car is running. The noise appears only when the clutch pedal is pressed to the floor. Such extraneous sounds can be present both on a cold car and on a warm one. After releasing the clutch pedal, the noise should disappear. A jammed release lever will not allow the clutch to engage, which complicates gear shifting and can also lead to rapid wear and destruction of other elements of the clutch mechanism.
Clutch basket and disc
Basket malfunctions are often associated with critical wear of the petals. Wear means that the basket stops performing its functions as it heats up. An increase in temperature leads to the fact that the clutch basket cannot completely remove the pressure plate. The result is very difficult gear shifting after the engine has warmed up a little.
Theory of gearbox operation
At the moment, all modern gearboxes are equipped with synchronizers, which are important elements of the gearbox. The essence of how synchronizers work is that they equalize the operation of the gearbox shafts.
Every driver, when switching from second to first gear, has encountered a situation where some kind of obstacle was felt. What prevents you from engaging first gear while driving. This is the synchronizer.
If you have a fairly new transmission, then when switching from an upshift to a downshift you will not find yourself in such a situation. Switching will be carried out without problems. This manifests itself as the components of the unit are used and worn out.
If you have problems with switching, come to Ankara for diagnostics and repair of transmissions of Mitsubishi, Toyota, Lexus, Land Rover, Jaguar, Infiniti, Mercedes, BMW, Audi and other brands.
Watch a video about the design and operating principle of the gearbox:
Checkpoint disassembled
The best way to prevent breakdowns is to take preventive measures. Unfortunately, even the most careful care is not able to protect the box from the occurrence of certain malfunctions.
Problems with automatic shifting
An automatic transmission is very demanding in maintaining the oil level and its condition, unlike a manual transmission. Too high or low oil level can lead to machine malfunction. In addition, due to a lack or excess of oil, difficulties may arise in switching gears.
The most common automatic transmission faults:
- Forward gears do not engage.
- There is no reverse gear, forward there is only 1st and 2nd.
- All speeds are engaged except reverse.
- The gears don't engage at all.
The oil level in the automatic transmission is checked using a dipstick. If the oil level is low, add.